Sun Jun 6 23:16:39 MDT 1999
I am afraid you will more probably stop writing the diary for the reasons other than the end of bombing. NATO (read - the evil of the world) will never give up that easy! They will find their cunning ways to provoke WWIII. Yes, what they are doing is provoking WWIII. But there will not get it! Remember that God has its own none the less unpredictable miraculous ways!
Hold on K, better be prepared for anything.
Sun Jun 6 15:45:45 MDT 1999
Sun Jun 6 07:09:57 MDT 1999
I am ashamed to have been part of a country whose military forces have carried out an unprovoked attack on a civilian population. Many do not agree with the war but these dissenting voices have not been reported. With people I talk to the overwhelming feeling is that Clinton hasd used the bombing to distract from the Monica Lewinsky affair and Blair is simply on a power trip.
Blair has said that the buildings he targeted belonged to the cronies of Milosovic. Sadly what many people do not realise is that an aggressor state could draw up a similar list for the cronies of our government.
I am supposed to live in a democracy yet the viwes of those against the war have not been heard and the BBC has been almost sychophantic in its support for the government actions.
The only thing Blair and Clinton have succeded in doing is destabilising the Balkan region for years to come. That is helpful to absolutely no one.
I cannot even begin to imagine the privations that have been unjustly heaped upon the innocent civilian population of Serbia by the fascist action of my governemnt but I can at least tell you that I and many others have not supported it.
Sun Jun 6 06:50:44 MDT 1999
Thank you for some alternative coverage amidst the BBC and CNN propoganda here. I never thought that I would have such contempt for the media here - I am not sure who is supposed to be living in a dictatorship, me or you.
Sun Jun 6 05:40:49 MDT 1999
Please K., don't stop writing to us. There are so few windows to the truth. You are very important to the world right now.
Sat Jun 5 22:53:42 MDT 1999
Sat Jun 5 17:17:48 MDT 1999
This is my third response to your "thoughts"....
Sat Jun 5 13:01:35 MDT 1999
You mentioned not writing after the war is over. Please continue to write so that we will know the truth of what is going on in your country.
Fri Jun 4 16:34:31 MDT 1999
Ha! My thoughts...I read your page most evenings after work. I think I`ve had a bad day, but yours soon puts it into prospective. More than anything I wish I REALLY knew why what is happening is happening, but I believe that little that is done by either side is done with any feeling for those involved. As to the most recent developements; well I feel that that they are dangerously inconclusive. They offer too much oportunity for this situation to flare up again - and that would be so bad...so very, very bad. I wish you all the best for the future. God bless and keep you,
Fri Jun 4 16:58:36 MDT 1999
Fri Jun 4 12:39:33 MDT 1999
I read through all of your diary and it means something to me. Here in germany we only hear the same news over and over (bad serbs, great NATO, poor albanians, great KLA, outstanding USA "fighting for peace and freedom").
We don't see the "silent suffering" from the serbian civilians, we don't know what really happens in Kosovo.
My opinion? The NATO bombing of your country was fatally wrong. I would have understood bombing of serbian military forces in Kosovo and cutting bridges, railroads and streets between Kosovo and Yugoslavia, but not bombing of power plants in and around Belgrade.
What will happen now? Bombing will be over, but there will be no official help for your country as long as Milosivic is in power.
You already pointed it out in one of your diary entries, no chance for your people to get rid of Milosevic, but there is some hope that he steps aside and resigns .... I hope you will continue your diary, its the only source of non-official unfiltered information I can get here in germany.
Finally, good luck for you and your family. Life will go on and it will hopefully normalize.
Fri Jun 4 10:14:28 MDT 1999
Dear Katarina and people of Yugoslavia,
This isn't much - for me to write you an e-mail from a place where bombs are not falling (sometimes I wish they were, just to WAKE people up!) - but I just felt the need to let you know that there are many people here who know the truth and recognize NATO's lies. We've had several large protests here, all over the country. I go almost daily to our parliament to protest. Unfortunately, our government doesn't listen to the people and act on our behalf. Some democracy! The whole thing makes me feel ill - especially that Canada is involved as an aggressor. My humblest apologies for that - I am truly and deeply ashamed. I desperately hope that this will soon end.I also hope that when it does end, the true war criminals are brought to justice ie. Clinton, Albright, Blair, Shea (especially him) Chretien.... the list is VERY long. There has been a movement actually, by a team of lawyers (led by Canadian lawyers) to have these 'people' indicted. I'm sure it will serve only to prove how! useless the Hague Tribunal is.
My heart goes out to you.
Fri Jun 4 09:46:27 MDT 1999
I was deeply shocked to read some of the responses Katarina received. It shows what propaganda could do to already low IQ levels and also the extent of psychopathic bevaviour in certain societies. We are not all morons though, nor are we all psychopathic nazis and in fact, I suspect that there are millions of us, citizens of the '19 democracies'(Turkey is a democracy! Now this is what I call a joke!) who are bitterly opposed to that war because we can understand what is all about. Yet, that crime against the Serbian people has commited in our names. I do not want to share that shame! I cannot help though not feeling guilty for not doing enough to stop it...
The war might be over soon but the issues that have been raised will not. What happened in Yugoslavia had such a huge impact on me I do not think I will ever forget. We should not let them get away with it. that gang should be tried for the murders of innocent people, the destruction of a country, the lies, the propaganda, the enviromental disaster...finally we should demand that they pay the bill for what they destroyed.otherwise,if we let the empire of devil(why is it that every time I see Shea, Albright, Brair and the rest of them talking I get that feeling that they are possesed?)arrogantly boasting about a supposed victory, God help us. I feel we enter a new dark age.NATO, the big brother, has already made it chillingly clear:they expect us to share their 'values'. well, i do not want to share their 'values' and I will certainly not share their 'values'. Katarina, they want you to believe that you are isolated. This is far from being true. Since the bombing started for many people i know, at least, the war became a very personal matter. How could it be different? You stand there in Kosovo, once again, for universal values, for pride and dignity and your Sacraments. I do feel compassion for the innocent Albanians like you.Their country is like an open wound and it is our obligation to help them but it is so sad that they are so combletely bought by Nato and cannot understand that Nato's intervention made their situation much worse. 'You've just killed my son but it's OK go on bombing'.I feel sorry for them. They have the right to live in peace in Kosovo and their human rights should be respected(as they should respect the human rights of the Serbian people living in Kosovo), but they should not be encouraged to believe that they could actually take away what is Yugoslavia's territory.NO country would accept anything like that!Yet, if you are a small balkan country you cannot afford to be patriotic like them... Katarina, !
I send you and all Serbian people my love and appreciation for resisting what is in fact our common enemy. I was in Belgrade some years ago and i was hooked by its beauty and the people. It hurts me to think what they 've done to it.When that dirty war it's over, I will be back there for sure...
Thu Jun 3 23:30:41 MDT 1999
All of the apologists in this list give the excuse that this war "is really complicated " and "not that simple". We'll please explain your sniveling weak-backed arguments? What's so complicated about it?
Okay, its not completely true that Serbians raped, tortured, and killed a bunch of Kosovars because they are Muslim/ethnic Albanians! Its also true they are looking with greedy Slavic eyes upon the $5 billion worth of mineral rights beneath Kosovar! And that they thought Kososvo would be an easy victory to uplift narcississtic Serbian nationalism after their disastrous defeats by Croatia and Serbia-Hercegovina! And that since Milosovi wiggled his way out of war-crimes prosecution before, he thought he would be able to do it again!
OK. It may not be that simple. But all the OTHER reasons only
Thu Jun 3 16:08:58 MDT 1999
Dear K. I have just heard some news. It sounds like the war will soon be over! There is some kind of agreement on the terms that NATO is demanding. I am glad for this! It is a cruel shame to bomb a country and a people because of the actions of political tyrants. I also think it is a shame that we are still bombing the soldiers. So many will not come home because they were killed in action in the last days. Milosovic does not keep his promises, so therefore NATO cannot let up. His army is still killing(executing)men and boys, and some young girls in Kosovo. Some boys as young as 13. I have a 14 year old son. I can't imagine what it would be like to hear that he was shot by paramilitaries or MUP.
Thu Jun 3 15:50:17 MDT 1999
I wrote a rap song that is to be sung loud and angry:
As a rival m.c. don't piss me off
They say this once happened to the Jews
So NATO says "hey don't rape that child
But we've lost the will to win a war
If you think we are another group of nazi interlopers
10 man team in a Kosovar village
Thu, 3 Jun 1999 12:18:06 +0100
A RESPONSE TO P F J on
Wed May 26 18:06:00 MDT 1999
I've read your war diary. I've read some of others thoughts, but not all. And I am left very thoughtful after doing this. (Ah yes, we can all imagine the depths to which your thoughts much surely reach PFJ)
You say that you laugh at the western peoples opinion of the war (no PFJ, she only laughs at people like you), that you are best placed to know what is going on (no, PFJ, YOU are – after all, the war is being fought in Somerset isn’t it), and you imply that it is wrong for a war waged against the country in which you live to cause you suffering (no, it is actually part of the convention signed after the 2nd WW that civilians are NOT to be targeted in war – but surely a person with such knowedge as you would be able to relate to us the articles of the convention signed after the nuremberg trials, not to mention the UN Charter and Nato’s own charter). You also say that your fellow countrymen condemn you for writing this war diary (yes because people like you will read it PFJ, and educating you is obviously a complete waste of time).
You need to wake up and realise that your country is at war. (yes PFJ, she, unlike you, has no idea she is at war – she thinks the bombs raining on her head are a fireworks displays – while you, of course, know all there is to know about living in a city being pummelled back to the stone age being in that hellhole they call Somerset-) What I, or anybody else thinks about this war is irrelevant (no, PFJ, it is only your idiotic and pathetic excuse for a thought process that is irrelevant). Your county IS at war with SEVENTEEN other countrys (actually PFJ, that is NINETEEN countRIES – I suggest you learn how to spell and read before you venture into the realms
Thu Jun 3 02:55:20 MDT 1999
Glad to hear from you again, althoug I whish you will be able to bring some better news one day. I want you to know that no matter what they say, you and your people are not alone. I and the International Community think about you every day, and I mean the real International Community, not the USA and their european puppy allies, the majority of the poor misserable population on this planet is on your side because they know how it feels to be exploited by the culturally superior West.
Wed Jun 2 18:14:00 MDT 1999
I admire your courage in writing the accountings of the life you are forced to live during these times of Atrocity. Reviewing the many thoughts you have received from the US, you well understand that while there are many who wish an end to this madness and are working towards doing what they can to end it, there are still many sheep here who willingly believe all that their leaders and media tell them. It is probably a greater job making them understand the realities than it is to turn the Aggressors away. Until some of these sheep feel the horrors you and your People are feeling, they may never wake up. Please keep your courage and continue to write. It is only through the words of those like yourself that the truth may reach those needing most to hear it. I will continue to tell everyone about your diary.
With Much Respect,
Wed Jun 2 07:06:23 MDT 1999
I have heard that under Tito Immigration from Albania was encoraged - and that under Tito Serbs were restricted and could not easily move back into Kosovo.
Also, I heard that during WWII the Italians and Germanys moved the Serbs out of KOSOVO and allowed the Albanians to move in.
Could you do a little history of Kosovo over the last 60 years and add it to your background section..
Thanks, Hugh Murray
Wed Jun 2 06:21:10 MDT 1999
i want to talk with some Yusgoslavs and to know what they are thinking. but i am not skilled to explore in internet. so can you tell me where can i find some newsgroups or chatrooms to communicate with you.
all the chinese care about you!
Wed Jun 2 02:48:35 MDT 1999
citam ove vase stranice, gledam razlicite Tv stanice - do pred kratkim i Tv Beograd
Wed Jun 2 02:24:04 MDT 1999
Thank God nothing happened to you, Katarina. I am sure you are doing quite a job. The thing is that the West gets one-sided information on Kosovo. And I think I know one problem of many ordinary western hawks is - they do not realize two things. First, we, I mean the peoples of the former Soviet camp, do not believe in what our powers say or show on TV in the least. We know, we feel, from our own experience what is really going on in Kosovo without watching TV pictures for we've seen many wars and know what govn'ts usually say at this or that stage of war. Second, since, in contrast to us, those hawks do trust their govn'ts (they have no ground not to, for they are provided with better life standards), some people write to you that you see your bad state TV and that's why you do not understand the situation. Funny, isn't it? They do not know a slightest little bit of us and in addition they are misinformed themselves. But in contrast to us they are too often unable to see wher! e truth and where lie is.
Tue Jun 1 17:06:30 MDT 1999
We have been worried about you. Glad you are safe.God's love to you and your family and I will pray for your grandmother. There is a wedsite where many good americans that are against this war talk to each other. Someone set your letter and your website in it. You should go there if you can. www.freepublic.com then click in at middle of page when you get to freeper click here. Keep your hopes up and we will do what we can on this side. Oh yes mint tea is my favorite too. I will be thinking of you when I have my cup tonight.
Tue Jun 1 16:27:31 MDT 1999
Tue Jun 1 16:03:53 MDT 1999
I just read your entry today. You said something that referred to the pilots doing the bombing as earning $15,000 a day plus $6,000 per flight. I don't know where you heard that but it is incorrect. Members of the American military get a set rate of pay depending on their rank no matter how much they fly or how much they work. No one in the american military earns more than $10,000 A MONTH (due to a price cap) let alone A DAY. Also, as far as the NATO bombings driving the refugees out- who are you kidding? People were fleeing Kosovo from Milosevic and his army of murderers long before the bombing started. I am not saying I support the bombing- but it is not true to say that is why people have left from Kosovo. I am sorry that innocent Serbs or suffering from the bombing. But it seems like the only way to make Milosevic stop murdering people.
Tue Jun 1 14:40:52 MDT 1999
For those who are telling K. that her people deserve to die for the sins of her countries leadership, here are some statistics:
1) People killed in pursuit of American interests, either directly by US or via it's proxies,(since 1960):
a. Vietnam/Cambodia/Laos - About 2 to 3 million
b. Indonoesia - 800,000
c. East Timor - 650,000, (about a third of the islands population)
d. Guatamala - 600,000
e. El Salvador/Nicaragua - 100,000
Panama - 2000 or so
f. Colombia - 10-20,000 and counting
g. Iraq - more than a 1 million and counting
h. Yugoslavia - couple thousand civilians, who knows how many military, and counting.
US TOTAL = 5.7 million killed by US or its proxies in pursuit of US aims.
2) People killed in the interests of "Serbia" during conflicts in Bosnia and Kosovo:
a. A couple 10s of thousands (at very most?)
All killing is abominable but who are the bigger barbarians who deserve to be punished???
Just some perspective...
Tue Jun 1 14:32:09 MDT 1999
I just wanted to write to tell you not to give up hope. There are people who care and who are listening all over the world. In the next week I plan to organise a walk out at my school to stop the NATO bombing. It probably won't do much , but I think everyone should try to do something.
Don't give up and keep up the good work,
Tue Jun 1 06:47:17 MDT 1999
Is Katrina okay? It's the 5th day since the last posting. I do know that the bombing has been constant sine that time so I pray that it is a lack of power that has kept her from writing again and not something far more tragic. I worry about her and the other civilains of Serbia just as much as I worry about the Kosovars.
She is in my prayers.
Tue Jun 1 03:46:31 MDT 1999
I'm furious, very furious about what people dare to respond to Katarina.
Mon May 31 13:21:14 MDT 1999
Quite simply, this war is being waged to ensure that western corporations can obtain control of Kosovo's trillions of dollars of mineral resources.
Yugoslavia has no intention of giving control of this wealth to foreign interests.
On the other hand, the Kosovar/Albanians have already indicated that under an *independent* Kosovo, mineral rights would be granted to western corporations.
Pretty simple, isn't it?
Unfortunately, the majority of Americans bellieve all of the NATO propaganda. THE U.S. PRESS DOES NOT QUESTION THE GOVERNMENT!
As far as the average American believes, the US is acting legally and morally. They believe that the entire worls supports NATO. They consider Milosovich to be Hitler and the Serbs to be monsters. They are only allowed to see pictures of refugees, and may only hear anti-Serb rhetoric. Of course, even if the truth were to reach them it would do no good, since most Americans just don't care. Even those of us who disagree with the NATO atrocities are complacent. The silence is killing you.
I honestly do not know what I can do. Nobody seems to listen. Nobody seems to care. I am ashamed to be an American.
My thoughts and prayers go out to you and to your entire country. May this insanity end soon.
John C. Johnston
Mon May 31 00:41:51 MDT 1999
Keep up the good work K.. I hope I hear from you soon. I hope the bombing ends soon.